{"id":1912,"date":"2024-12-22T21:15:50","date_gmt":"2024-12-22T21:15:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.thomarite.uk\/?p=1912"},"modified":"2024-12-22T22:12:54","modified_gmt":"2024-12-22T22:12:54","slug":"photonics-in-computing-usb-cable-hack","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.thomarite.uk\/index.php\/2024\/12\/22\/photonics-in-computing-usb-cable-hack\/","title":{"rendered":"Photonics in Computing, Usb cable hack, Stutz, Building AI Networks Arista"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/lightmatter.co\/products\/passage\/\">Lightmatter<\/a>: Based on this <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wBqfzj6CEzI\">video<\/a>, they are using photonics to connect chips, looks interesting, I remember Google has something with optical but for <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.thomarite.uk\/index.php\/2024\/03\/28\/google-networking-ai-cooling\/\">networking<\/a>. But It is pretty clear this is not photonics computing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=sRmVEnP-EXs\">Hacking USB cable<\/a>: impressive, and expensive \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=mwteIoVt-kM\">Phil Stutz<\/a>: Interesting conversation. But somehow, I am still looking for that thing that unlocks me&#8230;. can&#8217;t find it for the life of me&#8230;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ZWnC31JMSd0\">Building AI Networks Arista<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<pre class=\"wp-block-preformatted\">- allreduce: collect elements from all nodes, apply a reduction operator(eg sum) then distribute reduction to all nodes<br>-allgather: collect elements from all nodes, and distribute the to all other nodes<br>- gpu: cpu for parallelization<br>- RDMA: RoCE2 GPU memory to GPU memory - origin in IB<br>- issues: flow collision, trafic polarization. low entropy!!! > dificult to ecmp => Dynamic LB<br>incast: many2one -> ECN + buffering (in spine!)<br>- use chassis!<\/pre>\n\n\n\n<p>With an operations hat on, dealing with chassis is expensive and no efficient. It kind of a vendor lock-in. AWS is all in pizza boxes and I remember one presentation in Cisco Live where the Cisco EVPN authority recommended pizza boxes.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Lightmatter: Based on this video, they are using photonics to connect chips, looks interesting, I remember Google has something with optical but for networking. But It is pretty clear this is not photonics computing. Hacking USB cable: impressive, and expensive \ud83d\ude42 Phil Stutz: Interesting conversation. But somehow, I am still looking for that thing that &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.thomarite.uk\/index.php\/2024\/12\/22\/photonics-in-computing-usb-cable-hack\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Photonics in Computing, Usb cable hack, Stutz, Building AI Networks Arista&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[32,2,4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1912","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-cpu","category-networks","category-security"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.thomarite.uk\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1912","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.thomarite.uk\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.thomarite.uk\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.thomarite.uk\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.thomarite.uk\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1912"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/blog.thomarite.uk\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1912\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1916,"href":"https:\/\/blog.thomarite.uk\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1912\/revisions\/1916"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.thomarite.uk\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1912"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.thomarite.uk\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1912"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.thomarite.uk\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1912"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}